Reports are coming in that the online whistleblowing outfit Wikileaks' boss Julian Assange did a deal with the Israeli government to protect its interests in return for donations and perhaps a large number of diplomatic cables.
Suspicions were first aroused when there was nothing about Israel in the diplomatic cables and indeed there were other holes in the chronology when Israel was bombing schools with white phosphorus. It would have been considered odd for the US government diplomatic core not to post something during this period but the Wikileaks record is empty.
While the US is deeply embarrassed as its views on world leaders and its allies were made public, Wikileaks is silent about Israel.
However, all the material points to Iran being a major world problem and building nuclear weapons to wage a terrible war on its neighbours.
Aluf Benn wrote in Haaretz that thanks to Wikileaks there is now no fear "Washington will exert heavy pressure on Israel to freeze settlement construction or to accelerate negotiations on a withdrawal from the territories." Instead, also courtesy of WikiLeaks, the world's attention had been shifted to exactly where a "vindicated" Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu wants it trembling in fear of Iran's nuclear weapons programme.
If you look at the released cables you see Israel's main arguments about Iran being attributed to US sources. Arab leaders see the Iranian crisis as much more important than the peace process, and want the US to overthrow the Iranians.
Turkey, which has been attacking Israel, received a slap with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan was characterised as an unreliable, corrupt fundamentalist.
Enter Julian Assange. Although he is portrayed as an anti-establishment anarchist hacker, he happens to like Netanyahu and his policies. It is alleged that he said as much to Time magazine claiming that Netanyahu was a a model of a global leader, who believes that the publication of documents helps international diplomacy.
All this is circumstantial. But it seems there is more to Assange and Israel. It is known that a group of volunteers fled Wikileaks over Assange's leadership decisions. German Daniel Domkhitt Berg is apparently leading the rebels.
He told a Syrian newspaper they quit because Assange met with Israeli diplomats or Mossad in Switzerland . The conversation was recorded and an agreement signed where Wikileaks would look after Israeli interests in return for cash and more leaks, according to Berg.
We have a Syrian newspaper and a sworn enemy of Assange talking to each other and agreeing that is what happened, so there is an element of "well they would say that, wouldn't they?".
There are other weak points to the idea. Wikileaks has been friendly with the pro-Hezbollah Lebanese al-Akhbar newspaper, which if Assange was pro-Israeli would not happen.
Only a small amount of cables have been released. It is possible that Assange is planning an "Israeli package". However, all this is a much better conspiracy story than the CIA setting a honey trap for Assange.
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there are others who noted this pro-Israel trend in the WL saga. http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
Wayne is definitely eccentric but he knows many facts the average person does not. I do not present his views as an acolyte...but after years of seeing the reality of the Israeli peace movement spun into near non-existence by US disinformation, it's good to hear someone talk back. Sabbat Shalom
If Israelis object to their own government's policy are they being anti-semitic?
http://tipiglen.co.uk/zionists.html
and a primer on the situation in Palestine:
http://tipiglen.co.uk/primer.html
The lede story is how one of the most heavily funded intelligence communities in the world works to craft public opinion, especially in the US.
Just like all your supposed leaders - you gullible people you!
Aesthetical scapegoats. Nothing more, nothing less.
You need to take all these comments with a grain of salt. It is NOT antisemitic to disagree with the Jewish state of Israel, which is not secular, it is a religious theoccracy based on a non-existant tribal god of long ago and the Hebews got hoodwinked by superatural superstions as much as your own Christian pals in UK and Rome did. There is no God, no Jesus, no Messiah. Therefore we are all perfectly okay to disagree with the Pope anytime we wish, and same goes for Israel. Roger Cohen, a British chap in London who writes for the NYTimes, often disagrees with Israel, and he is not an Israeli he is a British national as you are, Nick. It is OKAY to disagree, bash, and criticize Israel, for sure. I say this as a Jewish bloke myself, so don't let these comments above scare you away. Israel is a nation like any other nation, and it's MOSSAD is like no other, and sure, disagree all you want. It is kosher to disagree with Israel, let me assure you, Nick, and you should know that 50 percent of Jews outside Israel also disagree with many of Israel's policies and actions. So forget the antisemitic meme, those posters above were just venting. Ignore them.
Keep focus. See my COMMENTS in CAPS:
re: "Since when did it become anti-semitic to disagree with Israel? NEVER. IT IS KOSHER AND PERFECTLY OKAY. ASK THOMAS FRIEDMAN or ROGER COHEN at the NYTIMES. THey do it all the time, and readers appluad them. ISRAEL IN FACT, NICK, WAS A MISTAKE. IT NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN PLACED THERE. AND FOR 60 YEARS IT"S CONTINUED TO BE A MISTAKE. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO PUT ISRAEL OR A JEWISH HOMELAND IN ALASKA OR ARGENTINA as ORIGINALLY PLANNED, BUT THE IMPERIAL POWERS OF UK AND USA AND GERMANY, IN CAHOTTS WITH THE ZIONISTS WHO HAD A DREAM (a nightmare it turns out!) PUT ISRAEL: RIGHT SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF ARAB LAND. SEE? I AM JEWISH, 10000 PERCENT JEWISH, LOVE MY ROOTS, BUT I SAY THAT AND IT IS NOT ANITSEMITIC FOR ME TO SAY THAT. I AM SPEAKING THE TRUTH.
Israel is a secular country. SORT OF.
Identification of the state government with the nations dominant religion is silly. NO, NICK, IT IS A JEWISH STATE. READ THE AP AND REUTERS WIRES. THEY ALSO REFER TO ISREAL AS "THE JEWISH STATE." THE RIGHT OF RETURN IS ONLY PERMITTED FOR JEWS. IT IS A RACIST NON-DEMOCRATI(C JEWISH MISTAKE. SIGH. I say this a non-self-hating Jew by the way. SMILE.
Do you say Italians who are pissed off with Prime Minister are being anti-catholic? GOOD POINT! I AGREE!
If Israelis object to their own government's policy are they being anti-semitic? NO WAY, BUT YOU KNOW, THOSE BRAVE ISRAELI JEWS WHO DO SPEAK OUT IN CRITICISM OF THEIR OWN COUNTRY IN NEWSPAPERS COLUMNS THERE OR ON TV THERE..they are ATTACKED BY FELLOW COUTRYMEN FOR BEING SELF-HATING JEWS. WEIRD. WE DONT" CALL CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS A SELF-HATING CHRISTIAN do we? Read AMos OZ and see a true Israeli moralist. So it is perfectly okay to disagree with Israel and especially MOSSAD.
cheer up. the three stupid gods of the middle east sadly still rule the West.......the Hebrews got it wrong long ago. then Jesus royally got it wrong. and then Mohammed went even further off the edge of reality. And HERE WE ARE.
Still, before we yell MOSSAD and ASSANGE in the same breath, it's good to check sources, because there are PEOPLE OUT THERE who hate Jews as Jews ....for subrational reasons....and these Jew-haters will find any excuse to belittle the Holocaust and Jews anywhere in any country. There is lots of hate speech on the NET these days by Aryan white supremacist sites and they are already linking to your post here. So be careful what you report, but yes, keep reporting. we Jews can take it. We don't mind informed criticism. Since there is no God, there is no reason we can't all be friends. Sure!
The 'Real Jew' Debate
By ROGER COHEN
December 9, 2010
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LONDON — Ira Stup was raised in Philadelphia attending Jewish day school and camps. He found his home in the Jewish community and was “intoxicated with Jewish democracy” as framed in the ideals of Israel’s foundation. Now he has returned deeply troubled from a one-year fellowship based in Tel Aviv.
The worst single incident occurred on Ben Yehuda Street in central Jerusalem. Stup, 24, a Columbia graduate, was returning from a rally with a couple of friends carrying a banner that said, “Zionists are not settlers.” A group of religious Jews wearing yarmulkes approached, spat on them and started punching.
“About 20 people saw the whole thing and just watched. They were screaming, ‘You are not real Jews.’ Most of them were American. It was one of the most disappointing moments of my life — you can disagree as much as you want with a banner but to allow violence and not react is outrageous. For me it was a turning point. Nobody previously had said I was not a real Jew.”
The view that American Jews supportive of Israel but critical of its policies are not “real Jews” is, however, widespread. Israel-right-or-wrong continues to be the core approach of major U.S. Jewish organizations, from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Aipac) to the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations.
To oppose the continued expansion of settlements in the West Bank (“Zionists are not settlers”), or question growing anti-Arab bigotry as personified by Israel’s rightist foreign minister and illustrated by the “loyalty oath” debate, or ask whether the “de-legitimization” of Israel might not have something to do with its own actions is to incur these organizations’ steady ire.
Debate remains stifled, despite Peter Beinart’s important piece this year in the New York Review of Books describing growing alienation among young American Jews asked to “check their liberalism at Zionism’s door.” Oh, sure, you can find all sorts of opinions about Israel all over the place; America remains an open society. But Aipac has systematically shunned a debate with J Street, the upstart Jewish organization that supports Israel, opposes the settlements and attempts to reclaim the progressive ideals of Zionism by saying that the systematic oppression of the Palestinians undermines Israel.
“These organizations’ view remains essentially that any time you engage in an activity critical of Israel you are trying to destroy the state of Israel,” Jeremy Ben-Ami, the president of J Street, told me. “Here are all these Jewish kids being raised on great liberal values at Hebrew schools — walks for the homeless, Darfur, AIDS — but God forbid we talk about what’s happening in Israel! It’s a dynamic that cuts off discourse.”
The issues are worth debating at the highest level. Middle East talks have just broken down again, precisely over settlements. President Barack Obama had virtually no domestic constituency for his attempt to denounce the continued growth of settlements as unacceptable and as undermining a two-state peace at its core: land.
Obama was left dangling, more so after the midterms, and had to retreat. This is not merely a failure of the parties. It is a failure of U.S. politics and the way those politics are straitjacketed by an Israel-right-or-wrong mantra that leads inexorably, over time, to one state with more Arabs in it than Jews. What then will remain of the Zionist dream?
Stup’s research took him often to the West Bank. He would come back to Tel Aviv and talk about Palestinian humiliation he’d seen and found that Israelis seemed unaware or unconcerned. He read in one newspaper that 53 percent of Israeli Jews would encourage Israeli Arabs to leave — “and I saw and felt that anecdotally.”
A painful question hardened: “Seeing what the occupation looked like, and given the ideals of Jewish democracy I was raised on, I wondered: Could Israel be failing and could we American Jews be defending that failure?”
It’s time to think again and, above all, think openly. Last month, Ben-Ami was scheduled to speak at a Reform Jewish synagogue, Temple Beth Avodah, in Newton, near Boston. At the last minute the event got canceled because of what the rabbi described as strong opposition from a “small, influential group” within the congregation.
Jewish groups, or Hillel societies, on U.S. campuses sometimes discover they will lose their biggest donors if they allow a J Street youth group to form within them.
Last month, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, speaking to the Jewish Federations of North America in New Orleans, was heckled by protesters holding banners suggesting the occupation and loyalty oaths de-legitimize Israel. Their banners were ripped (with teeth) and the young Jews dragged out. Where an important conversation could be held, confrontation prevails.
Stup, moved to act, has joined J Street. This decision caused tremendous pressure on his family back in Philadelphia. One very close family friend came over to his mother’s house recently and accused him of “poisoning the minds of young Jews.” The friendship has been strained to breaking point.
“Why,” Stup asked me, “is it poisoning minds to encourage them to think critically about the actions of the Israeli government?”
Wednesday, December 15, 2010
Daniel Domscheit-Berg (previously known under the pseudonym Daniel Schmitt) is married to Anke Domsheit-Berg of Microsoft Germany, according to the New York Times? Are they Jewish?
Daniel Domscheit-Berg (previously known under the pseudonym Daniel Schmitt) (born 1978) is a German technology activist who is married to Anke Domsheit-Berg of Microsoft Germany, according to the New York Times. Why did he hide behind the nom de screen of Daniel Scmitt while working for WikiLeaks? Inquiring minds want to know. Sometimes he signs his name Daniel Berg.
****Anke Domscheit-Berg is director for government relations at Microsoft Germany in Berlin. The couple were married in July 2010, with both of them taking the other's last name as part of their new combined married last name?
''My working assumption for the moment is that Domscheit-Berg is a plant, and that given his very expert cyber-security background, it is possible that he managed to suppress the Tel Aviv Embassy cables himself. There may be other explanations, but if Assange had taken money from the Israelis, I cannot see how D-B could have been the only one to know about it. I think of the US and Israel as pretty well joined at the hip, and often refer to them as “USrael”, and it seems to me that Israel may have been doing the US a favour by helping to entrap and frame Assange and then planting stories about him while he is unable to respond. The question of where the Tel Aviv Embassy cables are (from the Lebanon assault of 2006 and the Gaza invasion of 2008/9) is a very real one, and I do not know what the answer is, but it seems to me that Assange is the fall guy, not the perpetrator. WikiLeaks themselves say “The cables cover from Dec 28 1966 to Feb 28 2010,” but really they only get going properly in 2004.''
The FT article you refer to is presumably this one, by one Gideon Rachman:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/61f8fab0-06f3-11e0-8c29-00144feabdc0,s01=1.html
I would see this as part of the process of digging Assange’s grave by presenting him as having done the US and/or Israel a favour. There are two articles of the same sort on the rabid FrontPageMag, one claiming that WikiLeaks has vindicated G W Bush’s belief that Iraq had WMDs (which in fact is untrue):
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I didn't understand why Mr. Domscheit-Berg disclosed his real name after his retreat. But given his wife's employer, that disclosure harms the integrity of the WikiLeaks project, which is already in very bad shape...
Of course, he could also have pulled out to protect WikiLeaks from this conflict of interest - but then he could have said so.
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Le Monde has said there's plenty more to come and that Israel is not immune.
https://www.realliberalchristianchurch.org/2010/12/16/i-expect-to-be-vindicated-bloggers-claim-wikileaks-struck-deal-with-israel-over-diplomatic-cables-leaks.html
Julian Assange has now been getting an opportunity to speak openly about this issue. Finally, a journalist asked him about it. It wasn't enough, but it's a start.
http://www.realliberalchristianchurch.org/2010/12/20/julian-assange-wikileaks-answers-question-about-israeli-intelligence-service-mossad.html
He's even been heavily criticized for having anti-Zionists on his team. Reason Magazine ripped into him for it.
http://www.realliberalchristianchurch.org/2010/12/17/flip-side-of-gordon-duffs-attacks-on-julian-assange-assanges-extremist-holocaust-denying-employees-reason-magazine.html
Check out my series. I'm going to continue working on it until there are real answers.
http://www.realliberalchristianchurch.org/2010/11/28/if-wikileaks-is-a-neoconzionist-disinfo-op-roll-out-more-like-it-gordon-duff-wikileaks-a-touch-of-assange-and-the-stench-of-aipac-veterans-today.html
I went to the about us page but found no contact form.
I'm a human being, and I did hit the Post Comment button twice; but I thought I was being asked to do that when told that my first submission would be held in moderation. In hindsight, I can see that I should have assumed it was already in for moderation.
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"Daniel Domscheit-Berg Denies Rumor of Assange-Israeli Deals
Daniel Domscheit-Berg writes [with permission to publish]:
21 December 2010
I have been notified about the general rumour a few weeks ago, and shortly after about the appearance of me as involved in those allegations. I have never spoken to anyone at syriatruth or that reporter that is making these claims, nor do I know anything about any deals JA has allegedly made with Israelis.
Given what is appearing in the Scandinavian area with the involvement of Shamir and Wahlstrom I wouldn't actually expect that to happen either. In any case, this latter statement is just my personal judgement.
I once received a test mail from a nizar.nayouf@syriatruth.net, and then a followup regarding OpenLeaks questions. A contact request to him after hearing of the allegations was not replied to.
In the last week or so I have been contacted by Israeli TV about this, as well as French Le Point today. Those are the only media outfits so far that seem to have taken interest. Other than that it seems to be mainly spreading via weird Russian and religious forums, at least from as much as I am aware of.
As I read somewhere that this alleged reporter I allegedly talked to works for Hareetz, I have asked the folks from Israeli TV if they could help find out who that is, and how to contact her. They replied that there doesn't seem to be anyone by that name. So obviously, which was my gut feeling also, that person does not exist. Why that rumour is circulated, I dont know. I have my feelings about that and think we should give it some more time to uncover itself."
or this
http://thedailyblogwithpaulsharpless.blogspot.com/
see this
http://1ftup.blogspot.com/
This is Australian reality under the Jewish judge Spigelman
Israel rule Australia and the same is going to happen to USA
Obamas aware of this - thats why the media (Jewish people own 96% of media in USA) is against Obama. You DO NOT want Australias Hell in your country - vote for Obama
Very true and why not? We all make money one way or another. But this game was evil in an effort to destroy Obama. Nobody else but Obama. Its not his fault that Australian Ex Prime Minister Rudd made innapropriate comment vs China. Its not his fault if Arabs shared concern with USA Government about-who-ever-they-want. It's not Obama who started the war at first place.So the questions should be answered
1.WHY Obama is the target?
2.WHY theres no mention of Howard and Bush - they started the war not Obama
3.WHY Assange never leaked corruption, crime and abuse of human rights in his own country
The world welcomed Holocaust survives to our countries and our homes In return we were faced decades later with Jewish organized crime more powerful than the USA President. I don’t like Jewish interference in other countries political issues. I don’t like Jewish interference with other countries media. I don't like their unhealthy need for world dominance. A friend of a friend brought this case to my attention. I will pass it to you, judge for your self. http://new.home.tripod.com
This girl, Isobel Smunidic is new Anna Frank. Judge Spigelman willingly destroyed this hard-working-smart-decent family just to show who’s the ‘boss’ and who rules Australia. He destroyed her family, her health, her future and left her with personal injury that Australia will pay one day, long after this dictator is gone. Australia didn’t want to interfere and it looks like now is too late. He controls election process, who will, wont and when will receive compensation, he s playing with peoples lives, he’s ruining families and Australia is helpless in the same way as the victims who are seeking help in any other country but their own.
This Jewish judge labeled as the most corrupt judge in entire Australian legal history is responsible for this abuse that s still going on. This judge Spigelman has done more crimes than any criminal brought in front of him in Supreme Court Sydney. I thought I will not live that long to see Australian victims of crime knocking on our legal doors asking how to protect their families from this man. That much from me, will you publish this or not it’s up to you.
Poland
The world welcomed Holocaust survives to our countries and our homes In return we were faced decades later with Jewish organized crime more powerful than the USA President. I don’t like Jewish interference in other countries political issues. I don’t like Jewish interference with other countries media. I don't like their unhealthy need for world dominance. A friend of a friend brought this case to my attention. I will pass it to you, judge for your self. http://new.home.tripod.com
This girl, Isobel Smunidic is new Anna Frank. Judge Spigelman willingly destroyed this hard-working-smart-decent family just to show who’s the ‘boss’ and who rules Australia. He destroyed her family, her health, her future and left her with personal injury that Australia will pay one day, long after this dictator is gone. Australia didn’t want to interfere and it looks like now is too late. He controls election process, who will, wont and when will receive compensation, he s playing with peoples lives, he’s ruining families and Australia is helpless in the same way as the victims who are seeking help in any other country but their own.
This Jewish judge labeled as the most corrupt judge in entire Australian legal history is responsible for this abuse that s still going on. This judge Spigelman has done more crimes than any criminal brought in front of him in Supreme Court Sydney. I thought I will not live that long to see Australian victims of crime knocking on our legal doors asking how to protect their families from this man. That much from me, will you publish this or not it’s up to you.
Poland
The world welcomed Holocaust survives to our countries and our homes In return we were faced decades later with Jewish organized crime more powerful than the USA President. I don’t like Jewish interference in other countries political issues. I don’t like Jewish interference with other countries media. I don't like their unhealthy need for world dominance. A friend of a friend brought this case to my attention. I will pass it to you, judge for your self. http://new.home.tripod.com
This girl, Isabel Samunidic is new Anna Frank. Judge Spigelman willingly destroyed this hard-working-smart-decent family just to show who’s the ‘boss’ and who rules Australia. He destroyed her family, her health, her future and left her with personal injury that Australia will pay one day, long after this dictator is gone. Australia didn’t want to interfere and it looks like now is too late. He controls election process, who will, wont and when will receive compensation, he s playing with peoples lives, he’s ruining families and Australia is helpless in the same way as the victims who are seeking help in any other country but their own.
This Jewish judge labeled as the most corrupt judge in entire Australian legal history is responsible for this abuse that s still going on. This judge Spigelman has done more crimes than any criminal brought in front of him in Supreme Court Sydney. I thought I will not live that long to see Australian victims of crime knocking on our legal doors asking how to protect their families from this man. That much from me, will you publish this or not it’s up to you.
Province of Szczecin
POLAND
The world welcomed Holocaust survives to our countries and our homes In return we were faced decades later with Jewish organized crime more powerful than the USA President. I don’t like Jewish interference in other countries political issues. I don’t like Jewish interference with other countries media. I don't like their unhealthy need for world dominance. A friend of a friend brought this case to my attention. I will pass it to you, judge for your self. http://new.home.tripod.com
This girl, Isabel Samunidic is new Anna Frank. Judge Spigelman willingly destroyed this hard-working-smart-decent family just to show who’s the ‘boss’ and who rules Australia. He destroyed her family, her health, her future and left her with personal injury that Australia will pay one day, long after this dictator is gone. Australia didn’t want to interfere and it looks like now is too late. He controls election process, who will, wont and when will receive compensation, he s playing with peoples lives, he’s ruining families and Australia is helpless in the same way as the victims who are seeking help in any other country but their own.
This Jewish judge labeled as the most corrupt judge in entire Australian legal history is responsible for this abuse that s still going on. This judge Spigelman has done more crimes than any criminal brought in front of him in Supreme Court Sydney. I thought I will not live that long to see Australian victims of crime knocking on our legal doors asking how to protect their families from this man. That much from me, will you publish this or not it’s up to you.
Province of Szczecin
POLAND
The world welcomed Holocaust survives to our countries and our homes In return we were faced decades later with Jewish organized crime more powerful than the USA President. I don’t like Jewish interference in other countries political issues. I don’t like Jewish interference with other countries media. I don't like their unhealthy need for world dominance. A friend of a friend brought this case to my attention. I will pass it to you, judge for your self. http://new.home.tripod.com
This girl, Isabel is new Anna Frank. Judge Spigelman willingly destroyed this hard-working-smart-decent family just to show who’s the ‘boss’ and who rules Australia. He destroyed her family, her health, her future and left her with personal injury that Australia will pay one day, long after this dictator is gone. Australia didn’t want to interfere and it looks like now is too late. He controls election process, who will, wont and when will receive compensation, he s playing with peoples lives, he’s ruining families and Australia is helpless in the same way as the victims who are seeking help in any other country but their own.
This Jewish judge labeled as the most corrupt judge in entire Australian legal history is responsible for this abuse that s still going on. This judge Spigelman has done more crimes than any criminal brought in front of him in Supreme Court Sydney. I thought I will not live that long to see Australian victims of crime knocking on our legal doors asking how to protect their families from this man. That much from me, will you publish this or not it’s up to you.
Copy is sent to Hague and the White House
Province of Szczecin
POLAND